Wednesday, May 20, 2020

Is there absolutely nothing wrong with having women pastors?

Women can be pastors...women played a big part in the New Testament and were by Jesus's side. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having women pastors! -- Christian woman Response: Yes there is absolutely everything wrong with wives who are Pastors because they are disobeying the word of God in regards to their God given role. 2 Timothy 2:11 A wife must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. 12 I do not permit a wife to teach or to exercise authority over a her husband; she is to remain still. 13 For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the wife who was deceived and fell into transgression. 15 Wives, however, will be saved through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control. [quote]1 Timothy 2:12 does not address women pastors or overseers (but 1 Timothy 3:2 & 4 does: Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife...He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him). Nor does it address feminism, the belief that women are better and superior to men, that they don’t need men, and/or that they need to be able to do everything men can do physically. (God has made our bodies and minds different and capable of doing different things more effectively than the other. But I’m not here to talk about that.) The most helpful study you could do would be one on marriage. After that, look and see how many passages in the Bible are left that talk about how unmarried men and women are to get along with one another in the church (differentiated from all believers getting along) and study those. I think you will find there are not many. God is very concerned about His picture of covenant in relation to Christ and the church. There is one more passage that I will leave you with, even though it is, yet again, a bad translation. But even with a poor translation, we, in our broken English, can still understand what God is really saying. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman/(wife), and God is the head of Christ. It’s a headship of the family thing. It’s not a gender related issue. And more importantly it’s about His Glory! Written by Caleb Jensen, Director of WORD Center Ministries http://www.wordcenterministries.org/blogs--videos/zealous-for-his-glory/the-1-timothy-212-mandate.html Here is clear instructions for women in the Church Titus 2:3 Teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. 4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God. 1 Corinthians 14:34 Wives should remain still in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a wife to speak in the church. An Exegetical Study of 1 Corinthians 14:33b-38 Walter A. Maier, page 81 To what extent women in the Corinthian congregation should demonstrate at public worship their acceptance of their position of subordination to the men is made clear by Paul\ when he writes in verse 35: "Now if they desire to learn about something, let them inquire of their own menfolk at home." It seems that in the course of early Christian congregational worship services time was set aside to ask questions, questions which probably had to do with new insights and understandings of the word of God which the pastors and teachers had shared with those present, or questions about other matters pertaining to congregational life. Some of the women may have thought about, or desired the privilege of, asking questions as the men did. Paul speaks of the matter and counsels against the practice. Women were not to speak in this manner at public worship. Paul's reasoning, reflecting the divine will, must have been something like this: speaking and teaching the divine word at worship was not to be permitted to women, for in so doing they would exercise authority over men and leave their subordinate position. Asking questions in the assemblies would also be inappropriate, since this activity would put women on a par with men; and in this way they would not give public The apostle conceives of the Corinthian congregation as consisting of families having husbands, fathers, sons, or other male relatives of the women, who would also attend worship services. Let the women ask their questions of them in the home; and presumably, if the latter would be unable to give the requested responses, the women could bring the questions to the expounder of the word or the congregational leadership privately and have them answered. The apostle is expressing a principle here. He therefore does not take into consideration the exceptional case of a lone woman who has no male relatives living with her. In such a situation the opportunity would likewise be there for such a woman privately to present her questions to the church leadership. The violation of any of the foregoing directives of the apostle concerning women is a serious matter. Paul adds: "for it is shameful for a woman to speak-and here included is the whole range of speaking discussed in chapter 14-"in a worshipping assembly." Hers is the shame, perhaps not in the general popular estimate, but first of all and fundamentally before God, who has clearly expressed His will in His Word, any violation of which is a shameful thing, indeed. Hers is the shame also before genuine Christians, who seek to do the divine will in their lives and desire to have it carried out in the Christian congregation. http://www.ctsfw.net/media/pdfs/wamiiexegeticalstudy.pdf

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